2023-06-26 ET-W2AT Meeting

 Date

Jun 26, 2023 13:00-15:00 UTC

 Participants

ET-W2AT

No

Name

Role

Present (yes/no)

No

Name

Role

Present (yes/no)

1

Mr Jeremy TANDY

Chair

No

2

Mr Rémy GIRAUD

Member

Yes

3

Mr Pablo Jose LOYBER

Member

No

4

Ms FATIMA SABAI

Member

No

5

Mr Peng  WANG

Member

Yes

6

Mr Tom KRALIDIS

Member

No

7

Mr TSUNODA, Kenji

Member

Yes

8

Dr Baudouin Raoult

Member

Yes

9

Mr Thorsten BÜSSELBERG

Member

No

10

Ms Dana Ostrenga

Member

No

Experts

  • Weiqing Qu (BoM)

  • Wirt Kai-Thorsten (DWD)

WMO Secretariat

  • Enrico Fucile

  • Hassan Haddouch

  • @Xiaoxia Chen

  • Timo Proescholdt

 Discussion topics

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Review of actions from the last meeting

Hassan

  • Action 1: Secretariat to check the Cg-Ext(2021)/Res.1 to verify the coherence of “no issue in making "more" core data available”

3.4 The recommendation to Members is therefore to adopt the following national practice regarding the exchange of Earth system data

(e) Members are encouraged to broaden the provision of their data with a minimum of conditions beyond the minimum set of data listed in Annex 1 to the present resolution.

  • Action 2: GTS to WIS2 Gateway: Secretariat to confirm with DWD and JMA if they are providing these gateways

    • DWD is doing it using Topic Hierarchy: cache/a/wis2/xxg/gts_to_wis2_dwd/TTAAii

  • Action 3: WIS2 to GTS Gateway: Secretariat to check if TTAAii is enough or we need CCCC

    • CCCC is needed for mapping from after consultation with GTS experts in BoM, JMA, DWD and Morocco Météo.

1

"Urgent" 

  1. Assignment of topics for multidisciplinary datasets Assignment of topics for multidisciplinary datasets · Issue #38 · wmo-im/wis2-guide  

  2. Notification mechanism on updated data Notification mechanism on updated data · Issue #9 · wmo-im/tt-nwpmd  

  3. Clarify broker protocol elements clarify broker protocol elements · Issue #5 · wmo-im/wis2-guide  

  4. WP8.2 WIS2 -> GTS Gateway WP8.2 - WIS2 -> GTS Gateway · Issue #9 · wmo-im/wis2pilot  

  5. KPIs for the transition from GTS to WIS2 KPIs for transition from GTS to WIS2 · Issue #20 · wmo-im/wis2-guide  

  6. Lifecycle management of discovery metadata in WIS2 Lifecycle management of discovery metadata in WIS2 · Issue #85 · wmo-im/wis2pilot  

  7. Non-functional performance measures need to be defined Non-functional performance measures need to be defined · Issue #23 · wmo-im/wis2-guide  (or at least start defining them) 

  8. GTS -> WIS2 Gateway will operate a decision made, but ET-W2AT should confirm how to operate. 

 

Discussion

1.Assignment of topics for multidisciplinary datasets  Assignment of topics for multidisciplinary datasets · Issue #38 · wmo-im/wis2-guide

  • (Rémy): agreed with the current decision

The topic_hierarchy will only be used to identify a channel for pub/sub. When a dataset is applicable under multiple domains, the data producer should choose one domain (that is a best fit) and use the WCMP2 metadata record for further descriptions.

  • (Timo): In general, MQTT best practice is to publish the message with two (multiple) topics.

  • (Rémy): Please provide supporting evidence of this MQTT best practice.

 

2. Notification Mechanism on updated data  Notification mechanism on updated data · Issue #9 · wmo-im/tt-nwpmd

  • Decision: properties.operation is included in the notification message

  • Decision: value= create/update/delete, if multiple update messages are received, compare by pub_time

  • Action: write an AsciiDoc describing why and how and make in available on github.

  • Agreed that WIS2 Guide will be a collection of all individual AsciDoc

3. Clarify broker protocol elements clarify broker protocol elements · Issue #5 · wmo-im/wis2-guide  

  • Agreed that: MQTT experts advice is required to select the right parameters

  • Action: (Remy) to check with Verne MQ for their advice to selecting the parameters

  • Action (TBC): (Peng) to discuss with EMQX experts for possible suggestion about the parameters selection

4. WP8.2 WIS2 to GTS gateway  WP8.2 - WIS2 -> GTS Gateway · Issue #9 · wmo-im/wis2pilot  

  • TTAAii and CCCC to be added in the message to make it easy to do the mapping from WIS2 to GTS

  • This will not be included in the WIS2 Notification Message standard. It will be included in the GTS → WIS2 transition document.

  • Data provider who wants to stop dissemination on GTS shall use the GTS properties as described in GitHub issue #24 add property for TTAAii · Issue #24 · wmo-im/wis2-notification-message

  • Who will operate those gateways?

    • Considering there is no volunteer for the Gateway, a proposed solution is for one or two RTHs per region to do the gateway from WIS2 to GTS.

    • Action: Hassan will collect all RTH contact points; organize meetings with potential RTH providers and prepare one page for this.

5. KPIs for the transition from GTS to WIS2 KPIs for transition from GTS to WIS2 · Issue #20 · wmo-im/wis2-guide

  • (Kai) DWD metrics include number of observations received in DWD and WIS2 network per station and per country. There is a need to develop metrics: names of metrics and their purpose.

  • (Enrico) High-level KPIs, not too technical, for communication to EC/Cg is needed to get started. For example, the number of Members disseminating data in GTS but not WIS2; the number of Members migrating to WIS2

  • Action: (Enrico) to provide a drafted version of high-level KPIs to be submitted to INFCOM-3

8. GTS to WIS2 gateway

  • DWD: all data received in GTS are published the Global cache using the topic cache/a/wis2/xxg/gts_to_wis2_dwd/TTAAii

  • New data is only available in WIS2

  • Decision: DWD to run GTS to WIS2 Gateway during transition

  • Action: (Kenji) to check internally the possibility of providing the GTS to WIS2 Gateway by JMA

2

"We need to figure this out for the pilot project" 

 

Not discussed

3

"We need to figure this out for INFCOM3" 

 

 

Not discussed

 Action items

Timo: to provide supporting documents of MQTT best practice.
Remy to check with Verne MQ to discuss with MQTT experts for their advice to selecting the parameters
Peng to discuss with EMQX experts for their advice to selecting the parameters
Hassan to provide a document with decisions and relevant information(using AsciiDoc, including MQTT parameters)
Hassan to collect all RTH contact points; to organize meetings with RTHs and identify the potential RTHs to play WIS2 to GTS gateway for their AoRs.
Kenji to check the possibility of providing the GTS to WIS2 gateway by JMA
Enrico to provide a drafted version of high-level KPIs to be submitted to INFCOM-3

 Decisions

  1. DWD agrees to run the GTS to WIS2 Gateway during transition