2022-06-13 ET-W2AT Meeting
 Date
Jun 13, 2022 13:30-15:30 UTC
 Participants
@Rémy Giraud
@Jeremy Tandy (Unlicensed)
@Kai Wirt (Unlicensed)
@Tom Kralidis
@Kari Sheets (Unlicensed)
@Henning Weber (Unlicensed)
@Weiqing Qu (Unlicensed)
@Kenji Tsunoda (Unlicensed)
@Peter Silva (Unlicensed)
@thorsten.buesselberg (Unlicensed)
WMO Secretariat
@Enrico Fucile
@HADDOUCH Hassan
@Xiaoxia Chen
@David Berry
@Maaike Limper
@Anna Milan
 Goals
To discuss GTS/WIS to WIS2 transition
 Discussion topics
Item | Presenter | Notes |
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1 | Hassan | Hassan presented the GTS2WIS2 summary on previous discussions.
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2 Discussion | All | Remy> the principles agreed on the previous meetings are:
Enrico> To force Centers to run this bulletin production is complicated and difficult to decide today. What can we imagine is that to provide a software for RTHs to get data from WIS2 and then they will push to GTS Remy>Agree, when we see the list of RTHs, some of them we are not sure that they are capable to do that Enrico> They need only to download data from the Global Cache and ingest it in GTS. We can provide a software for that Remy> we can have the following options:
Jeremy>What is the packing looks like? Remy> Packing is taking data from WIS and presented them in GTS formats Peter> the grouping of the individual obs is the most complicated thing expected of GTS switches... most of the data types are produced elsewhere and just pass through. Peter>We could avoid the light blue(bulletin production) box if... wis2node included a "generate GTS core products" module ... so the GTS gateway would subscribe to that... and once the GTS is retired, these modules could be turned off Remy> Exactly.. that is an option Peter> Doing it centrally is more complicated than doing it each node.... would have to build the per node software as a pre-requisite to the central one Jeremy> Need to consider a configuration for the WIS migration Enrico> that what we expect from NC to control the migration Peter> the number of messages is limited to two or three types of things to be collected Enrico> there is a complexity for the aviation data TAF and Metars not be exchanged by the Global Cache Remy> Do we agree that RTHs can do something if we need packing service. In this case WIS2 can provide a tool for that using a GTS topic Jeremy> Agree, but what topic structure should we use for that? Peter> we can use TTAAii in the topic hierarchy Kai> We need to consider the two directions: GTS to WIS and WIS to GTS. But in the last side the WIS2 nodes don’t know any thing about the TTAAii. If we send data to WIS2 we need to translate with TTAAii. the difficulty is how to do the mapping from WIS2 to GTS Peter> you need a mapping table ....from sites to what AHL (including ii) Enrico> We have 2 aspects:
Peter> I tend to agree with Kai Wirt (Gast) (Guest) ... the GTStoWIS2 module is then the right idea for this... Weiquing> the only way I see is that the Global Cache do that Remy> I don’t think so. We can provide a software to receive data in the GTS way. It’s a way to encourage centers to switch to WIS2. By subscribing to the GTS topic they can access to GTS data Kai> are you talking about a new channel? Remy> during the transition we provide this new channel and we will not improve the GTS data. New data GBON…, will not be in the GTS Jeremy> how can we determine which topic for which data without providing metadata Remy>If we provide metadata GTS will never stop Peter> are you expecting to stop GTS from day 1 Remy> No, but limit the use of GTS. and encourage centers to migrate to WIS2 Weiquing> Agree with Remy but in this case GTS data will not be visible for us Jeremy> not visible means not discoverable through WIS2 catalogue Action>> Next week will resume that |
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